Paul has developed a unique and creative vehicle to introduce people to the dream-like nature of reality that he calls "The Dreaming Up Process." Paul is a pioneer in the field of spiritual emergence, as well as an innovator in the field of dreaming. He returns to discuss his latest book Dispelling Wetiko. In the first hour, we’ll recap on "wetiko," a contagious psycho spiritual disease of the soul, a parasite of the mind that is currently being acted out en masse on the world stage via a collective psychosis of titanic proportions. This mind-virus, which Native Americans have called "wetiko" covertly operates through the unconscious blind spots in the human psyche, rendering people oblivious to their own madness and compelling them to act against their own best interests. Paul discusses how to deal with the collective psychosis and explains the upside to the madness. He talks about what can dissolve wetiko and change the dream, bringing about an alchemical experience. In the second hour, Paul discusses nightmares and recognizing what is being revealed. We talk about symbols, synchronicities, creativity and the power of words. Later, Levy talks about government being under the spell of wetiko. He explains how seeing through the lens of pessimism creates a feedback loop. On the flip side there is the curse of our optimism. Don’t miss this terrific two hour interview.